Re: [DRAFT PATCH] emacs: show local date next to Date: in case value differs

Subject: Re: [DRAFT PATCH] emacs: show local date next to Date: in case value differs

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 22:43:02 +0300

To: David Bremner,


From: Tomi Ollila

On Sun, Aug 16 2015, David Bremner <> wrote:

> Tomi Ollila <> writes:
>> Now I took a little better look why the 'relative' date is not enough for
>> me is that it doesn't always show the local date (it shows like 
>> (28 mins. ago) or (March 30)). If these were (28 mins. ago (07:22)) and
>> (March 30 16:20) then it would be better (w/ +0300 that might be marginally
>> more useful in general but perhaps something that can be lived without).
> Going back to this thread after a long time, what about an option to
> show dates always in local absolute time only? This would be compact,
> and somehow easy to decode. Or more generally, choose a TZ to display
> all dates in?

Somebody might like that, but *I* want to be able to see the sender date
(being it right or wrong, machine cannot be sure but human reader can
guess better) and local time (a version that is always absolute). In my
emacs buffer the Date: header in your email currently looked to me like:

Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 12:15:14 +0200  (Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:15:14 +0300) 

In this case the dates did not make much of a difference (and in this time
(22:39 +0300)) the message header bar there was (Today 13:15)). Anyway
sometimes IT matters and in my 80-character terminal window this fits fine.

I don't know better solution and don't know whether there is anyone else
interested in such a feature so I just keep using this for myself...


> d

PS: last moment revelation: perhaps I could use just (13:15:14 +0300) there;
still if I'd be the single user of that...