On Thu, May 08 2014, Mark Walters wrote: >>> 3) viewing or entering a message using arrow keys, page-up page-down, >>> ctrl-v mouse clicks etc > > This is perhaps a key one: should the above mark it read. I would be happy to have that be the case. >>> The other problem with the current approach (in my view) is that if >>> you try to use the navigation commands non-interactively then messages >>> end up being marked read, even if they are never displayed to the >>> user. >> >> In what cases does this happen? (Not arguing, just not fully >> understanding.) > > I had a series for implementing filtering (ie limiting the open > messages) in show where it was the main cause of my stopping. See > id:20120429005736.GK2704@mit.edu for details of the problems. Understood. I agree that would be broken.