Dear Sebastian, If IMAP supports tags, is that not a big deal ? I mean, having a converging point for all tags, is that not like the holy grail in this field ? Obviously, there must be a caveat, you mentioned client-support, which is inconvenient, but of no long term consequence. Do you know what the status is of *server* support ? Because imo this *is* a big deal, without real standardized server support an IMAP store for tags is off the table. best, Sander On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian@sspaeth.de>wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:22:23 -0700, Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org> wrote: > > First, it's important to understand that any friction here comes from > > Gmail exposing its tags as folders, (which in turn could be the lack of > > availability of a more tag-aware protocol than imap). > > Even risking to become a bit thread-offtopic: IMAP itself supports tags > just fine and should be able to read/set/search all tags just fine (even > any user defined). My feeling is more that this is a lack of tag-using > IMAP clients to expose existing tag functionality. Thunderbird is doing > fine exposing up to 4 user-defined tags that are synced to the server, > but it's still not doing all it can. > > I still believe that it would be possible to eg. sync all our notmuch > tags to the IMAP server, which would help enormously with syncing across > machines. I still have the long-term goal of offlineimap being able to sync > notmuch tags. (very long term, though) > > As for Gmail and folders, I think it is an ugly kludge leading to all > kinds of awkward behavior (at least when treating Gmail as an IMAP > server). On the other hand it exposes nice tag behavior to clients that > wouldn't support it. > > Sebastian >