Hi folks, I just setup notmuch from scratch for the first time in a very long time, (as in, for the first time since I created notmuch originally). And first, thanks to everyone who has kept notmuch going along so well! It's delightful for me to see how much it keeps improving in the time I have been hands off from the project. You're all wonderful! When I first tried sending an email message from emacs with notmuch, it apparently worked, but then the automatic fcc failed, (because I didn't have a "sent" folder in my local mail store). The error message I got was not entirely helpful (although it was trying hard to be). It said: Insert failed: (r)etry, (c)reate folder, (i)gnore, or (e)dit the header? I didn't clue into what "Insert" meant here. And since I was coming just from having configured msmtp I thought maybe notmuch wasn't successful in actually sending the email. I hit (e) since that looked like something that would let me debug further. That took me back to the message where I saw "Fcc: sent" and I clued into the fact that it was an FCC failure here. At this point, a truly new user might have been stumped, but I started code diving, (first with "M-x apropos fcc" since I wasn't sure if the fcc bug I had hit was a notmuch thing or in some deeper layer). I found notmuch-fcc-handler in the search results, and saw that it was now defaulting to using "notmuch insert" by default, (which yes, is a good thing, and better than the plain FCC handling I did originally that didn't make recently-sent messages available to notmuch until the next indexing operation). So now I realized what "Insert" meant in "Insert failed" and I guessed that the bug was from the fact that the "sent" directory didn't exist. So I ran "maildirmake ~/mail/sent" and retried sending my mail and everything worked. Then, I went back into the code to see why it wasn't clever enough to make a directory itself. Here I found that notmuch-maildir-fcc-with-notmuch-insert actually does have code to create the missing directory, but only if told to with an optional argument. And the I looked at the code that emitted the error message I saw originally and finally realized it was giving me the option to create the missing directory if I had only understood what the message meant and had pressed "c" to create it. So, that's the long story of my little confusion this morning. I'm trying to decide what would be a clean fix here. Certainly if the code had just created the directory for me, everything would have been fine. But I guess I can understand why the code doesn't do that if we're trying to support a case where users are manually typing random strings in for the Fcc header and might typo something? I don't know how much I _really_ care about that use case, (if notmuch creates a directory based on a typo the mail will still be indexed and perhaps some notmuch users don't care much about directory names inside the mail store). Otherwise, if the message had said: Failed to save sent message in local mail store. Directory /home/cworth/mail/sent does not exist. Create? (y/n) Then I definitely would have understood the message and things would have been much smoother for me. Thoughts? -Carl _______________________________________________ notmuch mailing list -- notmuch@notmuchmail.org To unsubscribe send an email to notmuch-leave@notmuchmail.org