Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] modular mail stores based on URIs

Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] modular mail stores based on URIs

Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 17:48:36 +0100

To: Ethan


From: Mark Walters

On Sun, 01 Jul 2012, Ethan <> wrote:
> Thanks for going through it, I know there's a lot to go through..
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Mark Walters <>wrote:
>> I was thinking of just having one mail root and inside that there could
>> be maildirs and mboxes. Everything would still be relative to the root.
> I'm hesitant to have directories that contain maildirs and mboxes. It
> should be possible to unambiguously distinguish between a maildir file and
> an mbox file (mboxes always start with "From ", no colon) but it sounds
> kind of fragile.

Well I was thinking you would still need to add specific sub-directories
of db_path that might contain mboxes. 

>>  1. Are URIs the way to specify individual messages, despite bremner's
>> >  concerns about too much of the API being strings? Is adding another
>> library
>> >  is the easiest way to parse URIs?
>> In my opinion  the nice thing about using strings is that it does not
>> require
>> any changes to the Xapian database to store them. I think using URIs may
>> not be best though as they seem to be annoying to parse (as filenames
>> can contain the same characters) and you seem to need to work around the
>> parser in some cases.
> I think that's more the fault of the parser than of the URIs. If glib came
> with a parser, that would be great. There aren't a lot of options for
> pure-C URI parsing. Besides uriparser, there's also some code in the W3C
> sample code library, but it looked like integrating it would be a pain so I
> let it go.
> I wonder if the following would be practical: use // as the field
>> separator:
>> e.g. mbox://filename//start_of_message+length
>> I think 2 consecutive slashes // is about the only thing we can assume
>> is not in the path or filename. Since it is not in the filename I think
>> parsing should be trivial (thus avoiding the extra library).
> Can you explain what you mean when you say that two consecutive slashes
> can't appear in a URL? Ordinary filesystem paths can contain them, and so
> can file: URLs. (I just looked up file:///home/ethan///////tmp and Firefox
> handled that OK.) I've sometimes seen machine-generated filenames with
> double slashes because that way you don't have to make sure the incoming
> filename was correctly terminated before adding another level.

Nothing outside notmuch (i.e. other applications creating arbitrary
filenames etc) can make notmuch store a // as part of a path so if we
ever do store them in the database it's our own fault. In particular
notmuch can avoid them easily in that they cannot occur in a filename.

>> Secondly, I would prefer to keep maildirs as just the bare file name: so
>> the existence of // can be the signal that there is some other
>> scheme. This is asymmetric, but is rather more backwardly compatible.
> Based on your and Jani's reasoning, I did this. Revised patch series
> follows.

I will try and look at that now.

Best wishes