On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:58:08 -0400, Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU> wrote: > What I'm suggesting is no more or less automatic than the current > behavior. It's just a slight tweak to the order in which things > happen: that SPC could remove the unread tag and then move to the next > message, rather than the other way around. In effect, the read tag > would indicate that you've seen the bottom of the message, not just > the top. But as it stands now, the unread tag automatically goes away as soon as view the message when selected from notmuch-search. Under the new proposal I would have to hit SPC to remove the unread tag, even if the whole message was already visible. It would still require more work. > It's also possible I would have less trouble if SPC didn't > automatically go to the next thread. The problem I have with the > current behavior is that I often find myself accidentally marking > messages as read because notmuch showed me a message I wasn't > expecting. This is compounded by the lack of visual feedback when > this happens (e.g., the search results don't update to indicate that > anything has changed, and even if they did, I probably wouldn't notice > that the message *had* been unread). I really think the problem is the current behavior of SPC. As I and a couple of others have already mentioned, it just not a good, intuitive default behavior. I suggested what I think is a much better behavior in a previous message [0]. jamie. [0] id:"87pqlpioew.fsf@servo.factory.finestructure.net"