On Thu, Aug 17 2017, David Bremner wrote: > Robert Ewald <robewald@gmx.net> writes: > >>> On 16 Aug 2017, at 13:09, David Bremner <david@tethera.net> wrote: >>> >>> Robert Ewald <robewald@gmx.net> writes: >>> >>>>> On 16 Aug 2017, at 01:38, David Bremner <david@tethera.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I did some research: apparently shell-file-name should be POSIX compatible, >>>> otherwise many plugins don't work. explicit-shell-file-name however can be set to >>>> fish or tcsh if you want to use that in M-x shell. >>>> >>> >>> Is the requirement for shell-file-name to be POSIX compatible documented >>> somewhere in the emacs documentation? >> >> Not that I could find. >> >> Robert > > OK, then I think we'd better be conservative in notmuch. Anecdotally I > think it is set to some *csh on BSD variants and (!) cmd.exe on windows > by default. We don't want people to have to change a default global > setting to use notmuch. I believe there is work in progress to support > 'make-process' which is new in emacs25, and would eliminate the need for > a shell wrapper there. The effective line /bin/sh -c ' exec 2>"$1"; shift; exec "$0" "$@" ' args... Is neat trick (created by Austin, I[I]RC 2013-05) to have the command started from emacs redirect stderr to a file while preserving argument list. Before that we sometimes got errors intermixed to the output and sexp parsing failed. I tried an alternative --stderr=FILE patch to notmuch, which was applied, and then reverted by followup patch from me -- it was useless as using that e.g. in remote notmuch use would have written stderr on *remote* system and not locally. I tested what shell-file-name is defined by default on a freebsd KVM instance -- it is /bin/csh -- and /bin/csh -c ' exec 2>"$1" '; does not work. Many of have to host private patches to get their things work on their "niche" ;) operating environments. Until (and if) emacs 25 make-process approach is feasible, perhaps you have to host your own there. Anyway, it is nice to see use of notmuch in many alternative systems, keep up the good work! Tomi > > d _______________________________________________ notmuch mailing list notmuch@notmuchmail.org https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch